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Show Me The Returns

On Monday I did a post titled “What Return Should You Be Looking For?” and I had a comment from a regular reader asking me to show how I can get the returns I promised.  So I thought I would work out a potential investment/rental property right here in Kansas City in the Waldo neighborhood that I had a hunch might work.

waldo-investment-houseI looked at a property the other day.  Definitely not a charmer.  But nothing too bad about it, either.  It sits on a street that gets traffic, but not too much.  Just blocks from an elementary school. 

Typical Waldo house.  This one has two bedrooms.  One addition.  A crawl space that will make new home owners a little nervous…don’t worry, it’s like every other crawl space in this area…and could use a few things done to it.

I expect the rents to be in the $640-$675 range.  That’s based on knowledge of other similar housing within a few minutes walk of here.

Waldo is a neighborhood that goes up and down based on the fortunes of the local economy.  It has suffered a bit these last 9-12 months.  But not too badly.  And I don’t expect it to get any worse, comparably speaking, to anything around it.  With this house at the right buy I can honestly say I would expect a 1% appreciation rate your first year.  Yes, I’m being serious and conservative.  You can expect blue collar or lower service industry type renters.  Hardworking people that make up this country.

Anyway, let’s hit the numbers, shall we?  All numbers will be close estimates.  I cannot tell the future but I’ll bet, looking back, I’m not too far off.

Purchase price: $55,000.  20% down, 7% interest with 1 point.  House payment of $293 per month.

Expected expenses to include $500 for repairs, $800 property management for you out of towners, $200 utilities when vacant, 5% vacancy, $100 miscellaneous, $600 insurance and about $977 in taxes.

Expected income will be $650/mo.

That leaves us with a Net Operating Income of $4,223 and Cash Flow Before Taxes of $707/yr.  Principal Reduction will be $450.  Your tax benefits (depreciation, interest, etc) will save you about $105/yr. if you are in the 28% tax bracket. 

That means you have a cash on cash return of 5.24%.  A capital growth return of 9.01% without appreciation.  (Cap growth formula for me is Cash Flow Before Taxes + Principal Reduction + Tax Benefits / Total Cash Invested.)  With the expected appreciation mentioned that jumps to 13.4%. 

Now how about if you are a local Kansas City Real Estate Investor?  If you are willing to manage the property yourself you are looking at a return of 15.27% without appreciation and 19.35% with the modest appreciation mentioned. 

Getting back to my previous post, you have to ask yourself are these numbers worth the investment, time and risk you take.  But then again you have to ask yourself on any investment, right? 

zarda_splash_plate1We can tweak those numbers mentioned to a degree.  You can choose to put down 25% to get a slightly better return on your cash flow and a better interest rate.  But then again you can save that extra 5% and combine it with other funds and buy two rental houses that are bringing in a 10%-12% return rather than one house bringing in a 13% return.  Follow? 

For those of you that don’t know me I’ve tried to be as real as I can about those numbers mentioned.  Believe or don’t believe.  The choice is yours.  But if you owned some Kansas City investment property you’d have an excuse to eat some of our good barbeque. 

Now, I’m going to go mourn my Jayhawks losing yesterday.  And get ready for next weekend!

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Is Your Rental Property In The Murder Factory?

There was a point in the last real estate boom where I literally, without exaggeration, received 15-20 calls a week from California real estate investors looking to buy rental property in a part of Kansas City now referred to as The Murder Factory.

The Murder Factory is the 64130 zip code in Kansas City.  And trust me, you can also throw  in the 64132 zip code as well.  To see where these zip codes are in the city click on this zip code appreciation link from a blog post I did last year regarding Kansas City real estate

To get a full appreciation of what I’m saying you’ll need to visit the Kansas City Star’s article on The Murder Factory.  Read both parts.  Go ahead.  I’ll wait.  I’ll be here when you get back.

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(The photo above was taken from the Kansas City Star.  Click on link for full photo credits. 

“What I’m going to do is buy these homes for $5,000 – $15,000, put in $3,000 – $5,000 in repairs and upgrades and then rent them to Section 8 tenants  for $825/mo.  Then I can sell it for $70,000.  Will you be my real estate agent and help me find these?”

No.

I realize this is a family blog.  But it was bullshit from the beginning and it still is.  Today, I receive about 1-3 calls a week from people who bought these dogs begging me to help them sell them.  Last week I had a call from a New York real estate investor who swore to me he was willing to let a few of his houses go for 35 cents on the dollar just to be rid of them. 

murder-factoryTrust me.  At that price he was still making a profit and leaving someone else with headaches unimaginable.  This is not a Kansas City problem.  It happened (still happens) all over the country.  Heck, I still get calls today asking me to participate in this stuff. 

If you are participating in this kind of activity in these kinds of neighborhoods then shame on you.  You are continuing the raping of these people for your own personal gain.  And I won’t be a party to it. 

If you really want to help, be a part of these neighborhoods.  Put the money into a house, find good tenants and then put some of that money back into the neighborhood.  Spend your dollars at the local restaurant.  Get your oil changed there.  Be a part of something. 

But if you are looking to just make a quick $5,000 – $15,000 you run a big gamble.  It could backfire on you.  You could end up another real estate investment casualty.  You could end up hurt or dead.  At the very least, you will have sold a piece of your soul.

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How To Value Kansas City Rental Property

Want to know how to value your Kansas City rental property?  Great.  Let’s walk through a few things here.  The first thing you have to determine is the income.  What is the real, current rental value of that particular piece of investment property.  Doesn’t matter if it’s a single family home, duplex or 87 unit apartment building.  It should have a going rate that you can know it will be rented at 95% of the time.  Take the monthly rent (income) and multiply that by twelve. 

Now, how about expenses?  Some will be known.  Some will have to be guesstimated.  But figure your expenses.  You know, things like insurance, vacancy, maintenance and new carpeting every 5 years.  Don’t forget roofs and furnaces or property management or evictions.  Stuff happens even when you are a real estate investor.  Or especially if you are a real estate investor.

Subtract the expenses from your income and ta da!  You now have a Net Operating Income.  Everything else we do in the future here is worked off your NOI.  Divide your NOI by your purchase price and you have the famous Cap Rate.  Now, keep in my mind, Cap Rate is not the be all end all in valuing your investment but it is a great start.   It’s also a good way to price a rental home because it doesn’t worry about what the cost of money will do to your returns.  As a seller, that’s a buyer’s problem.  Not yours.  Well, at least it used to be.

There is still work to be done.  You now need to find out where else you could have invested that hard earned cash to see if those returns would have been better off here or there.  Within any given area or neighborhood a pattern of returns will begin to surface.  To be sure, most real estate investors and real estate agents have no idea how to do this or they just don’t do it.  So through trial and error they will generally come back to any given market. 

Price a duplex for sale too high and it will sit and sit until the price is reduced to the point where a savvy investor will lay down some cash.  Price a single family home too high and the same thing will happen…except that maybe a Joe or Mary will come by and pay a little too much for the place because it’s the perfect place to start a family. 

Another way to value the place is to figure out what the Cash Flow Before Taxes is (NOI – Annual Debt Service) and then divide that by the cash invested.   This throws off the other famous indicator called Cash on Cash.  Again, a rule or more-rather a threshold, will begin to show itself in any given area of what an acceptable, going Cash on Cash rate is. 

And of course, there is more and that is even more detailed.  But I won’t go there here.  I do go there with my clients.  🙂

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Olathe Duplex For Sale

olathe-duplexThis is not my listing.  But I am really liking this Olathe Duplex that is for sale.  Priced at $184,950 the price has been lowered from an original asking price of $200,000…which I thought was a little high.  Each side is 2 bedrooms and 1.5 bathrooms with a one car garage per side.  (Not my photo so sorry about the quality.)

The really good news? It’s in Olathe which is still a healthy real estate market.  It’s across the street…literally…from Mid American Nazarene University.  And just minutes from I-35 and everything Johnson County, Kansas has to offer.

I think you can expect rents in the $750 – $775 range.  The duplex is currently not rented and is owned by the Nazarene Church from what I understand. 

If you are in the market, can qualify for the investment loan and have the cash on hand to make this work I strongly recommend you take a close look at this place.  Contact me today if you are looking for an investment property in the Kansas City area.  My phone number is 913.568.1579.

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Kansas City Real Estate Investors Can Still Get Mortgages!

I just hung up the phone with a potential out of state investor looking into the Greater Kansas City area for their future rental properties.  Know what?  They thought the Kansas City real estate investor was having a difficult time obtaining mortgage money.  Nothing could be further from the truth. 

You can still get a mortgage for investment property.  Here are the parameters as I know them;

  • 10% down for single family homes, townhomes and duplexes. 
  • 25% down for triplexes, fourplexes and anthing with 5 units or more.
  • Credit scores of at least 680…720 and above is more better. 

Even if you have more than four properties you can still get an investment loan. 

Jeff Brown over at Bawldguy just wrote about this today (inspiring this message) and is also preaching to the masses. 

Are you in the market for a Kansas City investment property?  You should give me a call today.  I’ve got about 4 identified that I’m enamoured with.  Talk to you soon.

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Kansas City Rental Market Strong

People ask “How is the Kansas City rental market?”  Well, like the real estate sales market it varies from place to place.  But I can give you this personal anecdote.  Last Tuesday or so I put up two For Rent signs on two different properties that had just gone vacant or is going vacant August 31.  One is in Blue Springs and the other is in NE Kansas City.  Both on the Missouri side for you out-of-town readers. 

Anyway, I’ve had about 4 calls already on the NE KC home and about a dozen calls and three showings on the Blue Springs duplex for rent.  And Blue Springs has two people serious enough to say they are going to put in applications.  Now, any experienced property manager will tell you that you do not know until you know.  And even then it may take a couple months of tenancy to know.  Know what I mean?

Here in Olathe, Kansas I’ve watched a couple of For Rent signs go up and come down in a matter of 2-3 weeks.  Now, those weren’t mine but I watched them.  And my rental property in Olathe just had the tenants sign on for a third straight year. 

Now, on the east side of Blue Springs some clients of mine did take about 60 days to get a completely vacant duplex they purchased loaded with occupants.  That duplex had rents on the slightly higher end for Blue Springs. 

So there you go.  Just in case you were wondering how the Kansas City rental market was going.

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Rehab & Rent Workshop Announcement

There will be a Rehab & Rent Workshop put on by Chris Lengquist of Keller Williams Realty in Olathe on Saturday August 23, 2008 at 9:00 am and ending about noon.  Space is limited so you must register to attend this workshop designed to teach you the numbers and philosophy of buying a home under market, rehabbing it to rental standards and then renting the home for cash flow.   The location will be at Keller Williams Realty Olathe located at 801 N MurLen Rd, Olathe, KS. 

Guest speaker Ryan Dusenberry will also be in attendance to share his own personal experiences with this technique that has allowed him to build his investment property portfolio to 9 properties…and he’s still in his mid-twenties.   And of course Chris Lengquist will be there to teach the fundamentals of how to evaluate these properties to choose between the winners and the losers.

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  • Have you ever wanted to own rental property in the Kansas City area?
  • Have you ever wanted to rehab a house for the profit?
  • Have you ever been frustrated with the available inventory of rental property and rehab property?
  • Have you ever wanted to know how to evaluate rental property before you buy?
  • Have you ever wanted to hear from someone actually doing it?
  • Have you ever wanted to hear from a lender on the subject of rehabbing and renting?

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There is no charge for this Rehab & Rent Workshop.  But you must register.  Simply click on the register highlights and fill out the form and indicate that you are registering for this workshop.  There will be no books to buy, no seminars to sign up for at outrageous fees and no tapes proclaiming any get rich quick schemes. 

This is a hands on workshop so feel free to bring a calculator, pencil and paper.  Bring your questions and a good attitude. 

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What if you could buy a home or duplex that was for sale significantly under market?  Maybe not enough under market to flip the house but enough to rehab and then rent.  You’d have great cash flow and a fair amount of equity just sitting in the property waiting for your next move later down the line. 

More of this strategy will be discussed in detail at the Rehab & Rent Workshop.  Register now.

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