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Los Angeles v. Kansas City: Which City Is Better For Your Investment Dollar? Part 2

Yesterday I wrote a post comparing Kansas City income property to Los Angeles income property. Feel free to go back and read the article as it will help you to get a basis as to this discussion.

Where we left off was with Kansas City at a very slight advantage on cash flow…very slight…and a huge advantage over LA in the cash needed to invest category. I believe to get the said rental homes in LA to cash flow/break-even we needed to put down $294,995 while in KC the cash needed was $38,800.

I’m going to assume there are more investors out there with $40,000 than $300,000 in liquid investment capital. But if you have the capital you might be thinking..

“Chris. That’s well and good. But you know darn good and well that the Los Angeles housing market is always going to be more desirable and appreciate more rapidly than Kansas City.”

Of course, more desirable is always going to be open for discussion. But appreciation can definitely be measured. Kansas City has a historical appreciation rate of 5% over any given 10 years. Some years KC can be as high as 11%. Some years 1% – 2%. Los Angeles, on the other hand, can be prone to big surges and big drop offs. Timing the market in LA can lead to riches you will probably never reach in Kansas City.

How has timing the market worked out for you so far?

And that is only if you have the $300,000 to invest in the first place.

For our next measurement in the Kansas City versus Los Angeles investment property challenge I’m going to use the KC 5% historical appreciation rate for the City of Fountains. For the City of Angels, I am going to use a steady appreciation rate of 8.5%. I realize that LA is nowhere near that at the moment. But over most periods of time in history I can assume that LA’s appreciation rate will be at least half again as good as Kansas City’s.

We’ll use 5 years as our holding period of time before looking to cash out or using the tax code to exchange into other investment property or properties.

LOS ANGELES

The Los Angeles area duplex we looked at yesterday appreciating at 8.5% a year should now have a fair market value of right about $902,000. That is an increase of $302,000 to your asset sheet. (Not including, of course, the other 3 of the 4 Benefits of real estate investing or the sales costs.)

KANSAS CITY

The Kansas City (Olathe) area duplex we looked at yesterday appreciating at 5.0% a year should now have a fair market value of right about $247,500. That is an increase of $53,500 to your asset sheet. (Same exclusions as above.)

SO LA WINS. RIGHT?

Wait a minute before we start crowning LA king. We simply cannot forget that in Kansas City you had a cash savings of $256,195 on the initial down payment. With those remaining funds we can buy a minimum of 6 additional properties. Properly leveraged, perhaps even many more. But we’ll just keep it at a cash invested to cash invested ratio and we’ll save $23,395 that will go towards additional closing costs and taxes over the years.

So we’ll add 6 more rental duplexes to the Kansas City real estate investor’s portfolio. Now you have 7 properties appreciating $53,500 per property over the same 5 years for a total appreciation in Kansas City of $374,500.

Kansas City asset growth = $374,500
Los Angeles asset growth = $302,000

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Monday Morning in Kansas City

Just a few thoughts on this cold Monday morning;

  • It’s hard to take the scientific proof of global warming seriously when we here in Kansas City have suffered through the coldest winter I can ever remember here. It’s been below 33 degrees for each of the last 4 evenings. Out east they had a White Easter. What is going on? (Actually, I’ve read this is a result of GW.)
  • Staying with the global warming theme (and I’m not saying it’s fact…but very well could be) I believe there is no reason for us not to be doing more to conserve the earth’s resources. If we can do better we should. Take a look at this link. Apparently the technology is real and it is there to cut energy use drastically. Johnson County tax payers even benefit from it. Why are we not using it more? Smart growth is more than zoning. It’s also energy use, aesthetics, healthy.
  • Tomorrow I will be speaking at the MAREI monthly meeting. If you are wanting to find out more about Buy & Hold real estate investing then you will want to be in attendance. I’m going to break it own for you so that you will know what to buy.
  • Speaking of Kansas City real estate investing make sure you read Sunday’s Kansas City Star. Yet another article of crooked people doing crooked things. You may think you know what you are doing when it comes to real estate investing, but are you sure? These people lost tens of thousands of dollars and ruined their credit. But hey! They saved the REALTOR fees!
  • The Kansas City Royals are off to a 2-4 start. This has ruined my hopes for an undefeated season.
  • April’s issue of National Geographic has a great feature on the Flint Hills of Kansas. Beautiful photography (as always) and well done.

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Real Estate and Life in Kansas City

Just some meandering links to help you see what I’m reading…

This article is found in today’s Kansas City Star. From my own personal view let me say that what the United States is allowing to go on in the Sudan is absolutely terrible. Genocide is unacceptable. This article that you can read is great news for this individual, however. A true success story.

The housing/foreclosure crisis that is quickly setting in will have impact on you. No question about it. Even if you have great credit just one or two foreclosures in your neighborhood will help to further bring down property values. Columnist Steven Pearlstein of the Washington Post has written a column that I really can’t argue to much about. Worth your time.

Conversely, if you have cash right now you are KING! The market is opening up to you in big ways. Loans favor the 80% LTV buyer. Sellers favor the buyer with cash to invest.

The Olathe Serve Day put on by volunteers from Olathe Bible Church (my home church), Indian Creek Community Church, Life Church and College Church of the Nazarene went splendidly. This article in the Olathe Daily News spells out the home building that went on. In addition, a team of volunteers changed oil and did car inspections for single mothers and widows and another group cleaned up and landscaped at least 10 of the local schools that I know of. Congratulations and thank you to all.

Kansas gears up tonight for their first round game against Niagra. Go Jayhawks!

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Random Thoughts While Pondering…

…that Yahoo! Maps says it’s only 2,094 from Olathe, Kansas to Vancouver, British Columbia. Do I feel a family road trip coming on?

Boulevard’s Pale Ale, brewed right here in Kansas City, has to be one of the best beers I have ever tried from anywhere.

I know where there are 4 duplexes in pretty good shape in a pretty good blue-collar type neighborhood in Wyandotte County, Kansas. (Kansas City) Asking price is in the $90’s for each and rents are $550 per side. They are not my listings. So email if you want more info.

Do you watch Boston Legal? It has to be the most clever show on television. I have to admit I don’t watch much tv (unless Jayhawks are playing) but I have a standing appointment on Tuesday evenings for this show. Denny Crane!

Why do so many photos of women in real estate look nothing like the women themselves? I swear, in some cases, there is absolutely no resemblance.

It would be bad if he Chiefs actually rename Arrowhead Stadium for some corporate sponsor. It would be tragic if the Royals renamed The “K”. The great Ewing Kauffman epitomized everything right with Kansas City. Keep his memory alive.

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Freaky Fridays


On a whim I have decided to devote Fridays on my blog to miscellaneous ramblings and venting in general on all things that come across my path including but not necessarily related to real estate. And since it’s my blog…I can do this.

Reason #458 to purchase a Mini Cooper from Baron Mini in Shawnee Mission, Kansas: Yesterday it was 17 degrees, I started my car and let it warm up. I then went outside (where it had been parked at my office) threw on the heater and WHAM a 10″ crack appeared on my windshield. I got out and looked at it but couldn’t see a rock chip so this morning I drove up to Baron. They looked at it for 20 seconds and then booked me a car and a repair for tomorrow. The service there is always fabulous!

How about them Kansas Jayhawks? Big game this Saturday against Texas A&M and ESPN College GameDay is going to be there!

Real estate agents that cannot return the key to the keybox or leave a front door unlocked drive me crazy. It’s really simple. Treat the home being shown like it is your own. End of discussion.

I am assuming that since they are fast food that Chick-fil-A sandwiches are not good for you. But do I love that #1!

When will the snow melt here in Olathe? I’m sick of it. If I wanted to live in Minneapolis I would move there!

And yes, I’m aware it’s not Friday…I just may not have time to post tomorrow!!! And I’m a rebel who makes his own rules…

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Kansas City Real Estate

An interesting article was brought to my attention. It was published in the Wall Street Journal on December 23, 2006 and it was speaking of the new rules of real estate investment. And as I understand it the article named Kansas City, and it’s surrounding suburbs, as a place where the savvy investor would want to put his money.

This is not news to me! Over the past 12 months I have helped a half dozen people from the California and Washington purchase homes here in the metro KC area for investment purposes. When they tell me the acceptable numbers for their home areas, I cringe. Why would you want to have to put down 50%, 60% or 70% just to cash flow on a conventional mortgage. And the “gimmick” mortgage options they describe to me get me to chuckling. Seriously, you could invest here with 15%-25% down, hire a property manager (so you don’t have to do anything!) and still break even…or better.

Housing here in Kansas City is fabulous. We have a very nice mix of affordable and middle class and darn right wealthy. Duplexes are an easy and affordable way to get started and yet there are plenty of “priced right” single family homes and apartment complexes you could venture in to should you desire to do so.

If you are from the Kansas City area (including Overland Park, Olathe, Lee’s Summit, Blue Springs…among others) wake up and smell the roses. Quit looking around and start acting. If you are from outside of Kansas or Missouri, I would love to tell you about my hometown and the returns that can be generated here.

Real estate investing can be fun and profitable. It can also be nerve racking and drudgery. Which would you like to chooose?

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