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It’s Called Buy & Hold Real Estate Investing

Yesterday I addressed those of you who may be stuck in the “No Sell Zone” of real estate investing.  I’m not gonna recap it here other than to say that we were looking at what happens if you are actually losing money on your real estate investments today.  By losing money I mean your yearly outgo is exceeding your yearly income. 

I’ve worked up a scenario below to show you that it’s not all that bad.  You can and will survive.  You may not make as much money as you hoped.  But it’s called investing.  Nothing is guaranteed.  (Keeping in mind that you probably bought on quasi-fundamentals to begin with.)

The Ground Rules
Below is just a worksheet example.  Obviously, you should not misconstrue this to be advice aimed at you or your situation without the competent advice of a real estate investment adviser familiar with your situation, your CPA or your attorney.

Also, we are gonna say that this buyer was thrilled to buy a $170,000 duplex in January of 2006 with 10% down at 6.5%.  His PITI works out to be roughly $1239/mo and he’s thrilled because he collects $1,350/mo in scheduled rents.  (I said scheduled.)  But he nor his REALTOR ever took into account vacancies, utilities when vacant, repairs, cost of handyman, advertising and other miscellaneous costs of owning investment property that totals up to about $2,800/yr. 

We are NOT figuring any rent increases for 5 years and then we lock it in at a 5% increase for the remainder of time.  (Are you still with me?  I’m trying to be ridiculously fair to the most pessimistic of our readers.)

And even though there is still appreciable growth in many areas of KC (no, I’m not kidding) I’m taking a “nuclear winter” approach here.  You’ll note the decrease in values followed by modest growth potential in the last few years of 3% and then 4%.  (Historically KC goes about 4.8%-5% a year.  Do the math.)

Lastly, we are NOT even going to take into account depreciation.  Or the additional tax benefits of owning rental property. 

Value Of Sample Investor’s Duplex
2006          $170,000                          
2007          $170,000
2008          $166,000
2009          $165,000
2010          $169,000
2011          $174,000
2012          $179,000
2013          $186,000

His year 1 through 5’s expenses run $17,668/yr.  ($14,868 in PITI and $2,800 in misc. expenses) and his income is $16,200/yr resulting in a net loss of $1,468/yr.  That’s a net loss of $7,340 over the 5 years.  Remember that.

Now in 2011 his rents increase 5% limiting his losses to $658/yr.  Over the 3 years that totals $1,974 and when added to the $7,340 totals $9,314. 

And since I generally recommend (case by case basis, people) in Kansas City exchanging your real estate investments every 5-8 years lets say sales costs are gonna run 6.5% off the 186,000.  So what do we have?

Sales Price             $186,000
Cost of sale           $ 12,090
Total of losses      $    9,314
Remaining loan balance  $135,645
Original equity       $17,000

Capital Gains        $11,951

See.  It wasn’t all  that bad.  If you had taken that original $17,000 and put it in a CD at your local bank at 5% per year you would have avoided a lot of trouble and headaches and risk but also only incurred a capital gain of about $8,117. 

Keep in mind we didn’t figure all the tax benefits along that way that would more than compensate you for your trouble.

Do I know when this correction period will end?  No.  Can I tell the future?  No.  But I’ve laid out a fairly bleak projection here and you still came out ahead.  And that’s if you bought too high.  What if you bought now when you have some leverage?

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Are You Stuck In The “No Sell” Zone?

The “No Sell” zone.  It’s that place between what your investment property is worth and what it will take to break even on the sale.  You probably bought at the top of the market a few years back.  You may even have an adjustable rate mortgage getting ready to “adjust” which almost always means it’s going up.  (Yes, yes, yes.  I know about the LIBOR.)  You almost certainly bought on quasi-fundamentals.

“If the rents cover my PITI, I’m good.”

But you forgot to take into account other expenses your rental property would generate.  Ac/furnace maintenance.  Cleaning carpets.  Vacancies.  Roof repairs.  Lawn maintenance or painting.  Utilities when he place sits empty.

Now home values may have become flat in their growth.  Or even worse, maybe your investment property’s value has decreased 1%, 2% or even 4%.  (Hey, some real estate agents I know are working with folks who have lost 15%, 25% or more.  Quit complaining.)  The investment property is now costing you about $2,200 a year more to maintain that your rents just covering the PITI.  Now what do you do?

Selling is a tough proposition because of the real estate fees and high inventories.  You’d have to bring significantly more to the table than that $184/mo you are currently losing. 

My advice?  Hang tough.  Maybe for the next year.  Maybe for the next 5 years.  Let’s look at a horrible possibility.  A worst case scenario.  We’ll do that tomorrow.

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Discussing Subprime Loans In Kansas City

Today’s Kansas City Star has an article in the Business Section titled Subprime loans for mortgages have a defender.  Here are a few tidbits from the article followed by my own editorial comments;

“Let’s not overreact.  Let’s not do away with subprime lending, because that has helped a lot of people who up until now have not been able to purchase a home,” said Nancy Pierce, president of Tipton Research Group in Kansas City.   – Ah, no kidding.  I’ve helped several home buyers and investors who have properly used subprime loans and not one has gone in to default. 

“People were buying more house than they could afford.”  – Again, I’ve said it before.  Much of this is the fault of the lenders.  But make no mistake, there were buyers who knew better.

“It’s not the subprime loan by itself that’s the culprit here,” Pierce said.  “There’s been a lot of greed that has gone on in a lot of different areas that has contributed to the subprime problem.”  – Isn’t this what I’ve been saying?  First they give loans to people who shouldn’t have them.  You know, $65,000 annual income with zero down and a mortgage of $325,000.  Whatever happened to 28% – 35% of your income for debt? 

And don’t forget, it’s Nude Recreation Week

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Inflation, Stagflation & Kansas City Real Estate Investment Property

I ask you, which is worse for your Kansas City investment property?  Stagflation or inflation?

I’m 43 years old.  Old enough to remember the pain my parents went through during the latter years of Jimmy Carter and the early years of Ronald Reagan.  I remember homes sitting on the market for months/years because no one could afford the interest rates.  I remember my local McDonald’s installing menu boards with rolling numbers because my beloved Big Macs (two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun) would go up seemingly every week. 

I also remember the 80’s when Japan was looked upon with awe.  Their economy dominated the world in terms of growth and reach.  Followed by a decade of stagflation.  (Does that possible scenario sound familiar?)

For the old timers that read BBQ Capital: Kansas City Real Estate Investing I’d like to ask you to comment.  (Twenty and thirty-somethings are also encouraged.  But it may be time to listen to experience here.)  Which scares you more?  Inflation or stagflation?

For me, I’d have to say stagflation.  With stagflation I’m afraid our tenant pool will be so economically stretched that they won’t be able to keep up with the necessary rent rises.  There are at least some benefits to inflation to the real estate investor that can recognize what it going on.

  • With inflation you have a steady rise in rents which means when we leave an extended period of this your rent rates will support much higher sales prices than when you went in to inflation.
  • Inflation usually brings wage increases that somewhat (I said somewhat) keeps up with the pace of inflation.  Anyone remember 10% raises?
  • Newer income property owners will have to come to the table with significantly more money down and higher rents.  Which makes your rental properties all the more desirable to possible/future renters. 

Do you remember Lost In America by Albert Brooks from 1985?  We were just breaking out of the 5-6 year economic nightmare and this is simply one of the best movies of it’s time.  Anyways, when Brooks realizes what the “inflation train” had done to the price of his property he cashes out and drops out of Corporate America and decides to live life on his terms.  Of course, being Albert Brooks you know it ends in a nightmare for him.  But I digress, yet again.

I’m  not necessarily predicting either stagflation or inflation.  But the possibilities are there.  The mix is there.  Or we could pull out of these doldrums and move forward.  I wouldn’t be surprised by any of the three possibilities.  As much as Kansas City has been insulated from the property value losses of both coasts we would not be insulated against inflation or stagflation.  Nobody will be. 

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It’s The End Of The World As We Know It

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
And I feel fine.
                                   …REM

Bad tomatoes.
$130 a barrel oil.
$4.00 – $5.00 gasoline.
Soaring energy costs for the home.
Soaring bread prices.
Unemployment pushing up to 5.5%.
Illegal immigration.

Don’t lose hope.  I’m old enough to remember the economy in the late ’70’s and early ’80’s.  I remember my parents feeling a bit hopeless regarding the economy and America’s place in the world.  In comparison to the world our lives are still downright cushy.  (And the worst part of the ’70’s, in my opinion, wasn’t the high inflation or energy costs…it was disco!) 

This too shall pass.

Do plan for the future.  Do position yourself to capitalize on the rebound.  Do make sure you are putting away enough in savings for upcoming unexpected events and/or costs.  Do take your retirement into your hands and put more money into your retirement vehicle whether that be stocks, bonds, mutual funds or even real estate investing. 

 

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Pay Down The Credit Cards or Buy An Investment Property?

It’s amazing how much consumer debt people will carry on credit cards.  And then the decisions revolving around that debt can be puzzling.  So let’s think about this for a moment.

Here in Kansas City if you work with me to purchase an investment property I’m gonna direct you towards a rental property that will have a Return on Investment (with appreciation) somewhere in the 22%-32% range.  Without appreciation your return will likely be in the 13%-21% range.  That’s on a yearly basis for the first couple years. 

But what if you are carrying debt on a credit card costing you 15%?  18%?  My sister has a card at 25.9%?  Did the Sopranos earn that kind of interest?  I wonder. 

Anyway, if you are carrying significant consumer debt while pondering whether or not you should become a real estate investor I would like to encourage you to give paying off the consumer debt some serious thought.  Let’s say it’s gonna take you $15,000 grand to buy your first investment property so you are saving fervently and leaving the money in a money-market account earning you 3%.  But in the mean time you have $10,000 in consumer debt, spread over a couple plastic cards, that is costing you 18% a year.  Well, then you have a -13% growth rate.   That’s not good.

Let’s look at it another way.  Let’s say that you concentrate first on paying off the credit card.  At $10.000 you are probably paying around $425/mo in payments to the credit card companies.  Instead of paying those minimums and putting the additional $400/mo in a money-market account earning 3% why don’t you take that $400 and slap it down on a credit card.  Should you do this you’ll make 16 fewer payments (14 vs. 30) and you’ll have earned an average annual return of 19% on your debt investment

After retiring those credit card debts you can take $825/mo, put it in a money-market account until you get to your down payment for a rental property and you can do it with a clear conscious knowing you are on your way to a Retirement Worth Having.

I have been accused of being too conservative with my investments.  But I don’t see the sense of paying interest on consumer debt when paying it down means the returns are likely to be similar to what I can help you get with a rental property.  And without the hassle of tenants.  Therefore no time expenditure.

Of course, $10,000 is a huge chunk of money to some people and not so much to others.  If having $10,000 on your credit cards still amounts to only 1 month’s take home pay, then it’s not a big deal.  But if you make $30,000 a year and you owe 1/3 of that towards consumer debt, you might want to get your priorities in order. 

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Johnson County, Kansas Rental Property

If you want me to pull a rabbit out of my hat, then you have to have patience.  I’m not trying to be a smarty pants.  It’s just the truth.

What brings this up is that I have about 4 clients that I’m working with right now that insist on owning investment property in Johnson County, Kansas.  And that’s fine.  They are good people and with enough time and patience we will find them each something that is suitable to their goals and criteria.  But rental properties in Olathe or Overland Park or Lenexa are just nearly downright impossible to find using criteria that fits areas like Blue Springs or Indepenence.  But hey, that’s why I get paid. 

And every once in a while they do pop up.  And that’s when we have to pounce.  If you haven’t lost faith in my by then.  🙂

 

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