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The Basics of Real Estate Investing in Kansas City

It seems it’s been a while since I discussed, or re-discussed more-rather, the basics  of real estate investing in Kansas City.  Maybe it’s because the market has been so darned fluid this last year.  But a funny thing has happened on the way to the Great Kansas City Real Estate Collapse.  It just never happened.

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Now to be sure, as I write this, our market is still very fluid and quite weird.  On the one hand the market is red-hot.  My clients have been out-bid on 5 of the last 7 offers we’ve written.  Now these are all properties at the $135,000 price point or below.  And the lower you go the hotter the market.  And when markets heat up, real estate investor usually make bad decisions.

The point of ALL real estate investing, it seems to me, is to have more at the end than you did at the beginning.  And that “more” needs to be more than you could have gotten in other investment vehicles.  Why?  Because owning rental property, even when you use a property manager, is much more labor intensive than owning stocks/bonds/mutual funds.  Your capital isn’t as liquid.  Your ongoing need for reinvestment more possible and real.

When I speak of invesing in real estate I’m thinking of the following;

  • Buy & Live – A great way to start especially with limited capital.  You buy a home to live in that would also be suitable for rental later down the road.  you live there a year or two and then buy another home.  You keep this home and rent it out.  Now you have two homes, one a rental, and both on owner-occupied mortgages and their corresponding down payments.  If you are in your twenties, this is a fabulous way to start.
  • Buy & Hold…appropriately – Buy a house that will be a rental property.  If you have a good solid income, 20% to 25% to put down ( a necessary in this currently lending environment) and enough reserves so that I can sleep at night this is the way to go.  When I say Hold I don’t necessarily mean for the rest of your life.  In KC I think 5-8 years is about the sweet spot.  That’s taken on a case by case basis.  Then you turn that property in for one or two other properties to start the cycle over again.
  • Buy, Rehab & Rent – This can be very lucrative if you have two things; 1) Cash to make the down payment, cash for reserves and cash for repairs (construction loans are few and far between right now) and 2) Time on your hands.  Someone has to supervise the rehab.  True, you can farm it out but then profits are slashed further and you really have to find the rare property that meets the financial requirements.  But through this method you can end up with the most sweat-equity.

Through the years I’ve written about the 4 Benefits To Real Estate Investing and if you go over to the Categories section of this blog you can search and click on that subject to bring up literally years of posts and comments on the subjects.  Over the next week I promise to re-visit how to pencil a house to see if the numbers work. Keeping in mind the “numbers working” is a subjective value that can change from investor to investor.

tortiseFor those of you who are considering house flipping as real estate investment I suggest you walk on over to BawldGuy’s Treadmill post.  There you can read his excellent dissertation on the subject and my comments, as well.  You do need to be forewarned that you may not like what you read.  And anyone that considers house flipping in Kansas City had really better know what they are doing.  Our numbers in KC are much tougher than other regions because of the lack of explosive appreciation that is possible in other places.

Kansas City real estate investing is for those that can live with and/or like a “slow and steady wins the race” philosophy.  I’ve never advocated that an out-of-state real estate investor should have all of his/her portfolio here.  But I do very much believe that a portion of your real estate investment holdings should be here.  You’ll see why if you poke around this blog.

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The State of Commercial Real Estate Investing in Kansas City

I like to keep up with commercial real estate.  Mostly, I read about it.  Ask questions about it.  On very rare occasions I actually get to partake in a commercial real estate transaction.  But commercial real estate investing and residential real estate investing are two completely different animals.  The Kansas City Star has an excellent write-up today on the state of the commercial market today.

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First, let’s remember who I am.  I’m a residential real estate agent that works a whole lot with residential investment property owners and would-be owners.  Also, I rent commercial space for my own use in an entirely different arena that my wife and I also enjoy.  So I do have experience with both.  My thoughts;

Residential Investment Property Investing In Kansas City Today

While there are definitely areas to avoid, I can say with a straight face that if you have cash you should be buying.  Now.  Not later.  The money is currently in single family homes, not multi-family homes.  There are more reasons for this than I want to discuss here.  But that’s the way it is.

Commercial Real Estate Investing In Kansas City Today

Oy.  Read the article and look around.  In the retail strip center I lease property in we currently had 100% occupancy for the first time in a decade.  The strip center is run down and well-below the standards of other Olathe strip retail centers.  But one of the largest tenants will be closing it’s doors on May 23rd.  (The owner told me he just isn’t able to make it with his limited customer base cutting back.)

About a mile from my center I’ve had another retail center talking to me about moving up there when my current lease is up.  They took a previously run-down center and gave it a new face lift.  Looks good.  But they also tripled their lease rates.  And it sits about 35%-45% occupied.

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BBQCapital has a reader that goes by the name of Another Investor.  And AI once said that she didn’t understand the fascination with commercial real estate investing because of the capital and risk involved.  (If I’m too far off what you said AI, please correct me!)  And that it was her feeling that a commercial tenant will quit paying their rent before a residential tenant would.  After all, would they rather have a home to live in if they cannot make their store payments?  Probably.

I think for large capital investors commercial is an excellent way to go.  And there are hundreds of reasons for this.  But for 99.9% of our readership here you’re probably better off with 10-12 homes than one small, run-down strip center.  (Not saying you need 10-12.  But at that point you are probably thinking about going commercial.)

Just my thoughts for the day.

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Taxes and Your Rental Properties

depreciation-surpriseOkay.  This is not going to be a long post.  I just wanted you to know that I picked up my taxes from my “tax guy” yesterday and had a pleasant surprise.  And a big part of that surprise was the rental property factor.  It can be like “found money.”

Depreciation is your friend when you own investment property.  I have written about Depreciation and Your Rental Property before and everything I have to say about it can be found at that link. 

Let’s say this one  more time:

“There are 4 basic benefits to owning investment property.”

  1. Cash Flow Before Taxes
  2. Principal Reduction
  3. Tax Benefits (Depreciation included)
  4. Appreciation

Just go to the categories section on the right side of this real estate investing blog and you can look up the tag: 4 Benefits of Real Estate Investing.  You can read those links and you’ll learn what you need to learn.

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Real Estate Investor Financing

While catching up in my feedreader this morning I came across the title Fannie Mae 10% Down For Real Estate Investors.  This was published on Scott Ficek’s Minnesota Investment Property Blog.  (I just want to give credit where credit is due since none of my lenders gave me a head’s up…for Pete’s sake.) Anywho, you can read up more about this at the Investment Mortgage Guy’s website. Thanks for the heads up, guys.

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What Are Kansas City Real Estate Investors Looking For?

Q: I’m looking to wholesale homes to investors in the Kansas City area. I’d like to know the answer to one question. What are the top 3-5 things Kansas City investors / landlords look for in a property they’d be eager to buy?

A: I have wholesalers call me each and every week.  All believe or hope that I may have a stable of ready buyers for their properties. 

In no way will I want to appear rude here, but usually if a wholesaler is involved the numbers will not match up with the expectations of most of my more experienced buyers.  Because that’s just one more layer of expenses that have to be worked through to see if the numbers work.

Top 3-5 Things A Kansas City Real Estate Investor Is Looking For

  1. Price/Value/Equity– Whether my buyer is looking to Buy & Hold, Rehab & Rent or is daring enough to Buy, Rehab & Sell they will all be looking very closely at the numbers.  Buy & Hold is probably willing to accept up to 85%-90% of CURRENT market value after all update expenses and closing costs.  Whereas a Rehab & Rent guy will probably be looking for a ceiling of 75%-80% of CMV and a B,R & S guy will be looking at 60%-70% of CMV.
  2. Location – This depends on the budget, down payment, credit scores and end-use goals of the individual investor but you can expect most of my buyers to be looking at clean, safe neighborhoods where appreciation is more the expected than the exception.  Even in this economy.  Jeff Brown calls it the Grandmother Test.  (If grandma wouldn’t spend the night there maybe you need to reconsider.)
  3. Exit Plan – Is this neighborhood likely to increase in value, stay the same or sink a little?  Who is moving in?  (People making more money than their neighbors or less?)   Are they taking care of their houses?  Any new development, both positive and negative, expected for the area in the next 3-10 years? 
  4. Tenant Pool – What kind of tenants will this property attract?  Are there enough of those kinds of tenant about?  Where will they come from?  Where do they work? 

Wholesaling tends to take place in the less than $70,000 price range around most of Kansas City.  It does happen some over that price range, but not nearly as much. 

If a house meets the criteria of the above I’m always willing to look at it.  Just email me the needed information.  listwithchris at kw.com

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Show Me The Returns

On Monday I did a post titled “What Return Should You Be Looking For?” and I had a comment from a regular reader asking me to show how I can get the returns I promised.  So I thought I would work out a potential investment/rental property right here in Kansas City in the Waldo neighborhood that I had a hunch might work.

waldo-investment-houseI looked at a property the other day.  Definitely not a charmer.  But nothing too bad about it, either.  It sits on a street that gets traffic, but not too much.  Just blocks from an elementary school. 

Typical Waldo house.  This one has two bedrooms.  One addition.  A crawl space that will make new home owners a little nervous…don’t worry, it’s like every other crawl space in this area…and could use a few things done to it.

I expect the rents to be in the $640-$675 range.  That’s based on knowledge of other similar housing within a few minutes walk of here.

Waldo is a neighborhood that goes up and down based on the fortunes of the local economy.  It has suffered a bit these last 9-12 months.  But not too badly.  And I don’t expect it to get any worse, comparably speaking, to anything around it.  With this house at the right buy I can honestly say I would expect a 1% appreciation rate your first year.  Yes, I’m being serious and conservative.  You can expect blue collar or lower service industry type renters.  Hardworking people that make up this country.

Anyway, let’s hit the numbers, shall we?  All numbers will be close estimates.  I cannot tell the future but I’ll bet, looking back, I’m not too far off.

Purchase price: $55,000.  20% down, 7% interest with 1 point.  House payment of $293 per month.

Expected expenses to include $500 for repairs, $800 property management for you out of towners, $200 utilities when vacant, 5% vacancy, $100 miscellaneous, $600 insurance and about $977 in taxes.

Expected income will be $650/mo.

That leaves us with a Net Operating Income of $4,223 and Cash Flow Before Taxes of $707/yr.  Principal Reduction will be $450.  Your tax benefits (depreciation, interest, etc) will save you about $105/yr. if you are in the 28% tax bracket. 

That means you have a cash on cash return of 5.24%.  A capital growth return of 9.01% without appreciation.  (Cap growth formula for me is Cash Flow Before Taxes + Principal Reduction + Tax Benefits / Total Cash Invested.)  With the expected appreciation mentioned that jumps to 13.4%. 

Now how about if you are a local Kansas City Real Estate Investor?  If you are willing to manage the property yourself you are looking at a return of 15.27% without appreciation and 19.35% with the modest appreciation mentioned. 

Getting back to my previous post, you have to ask yourself are these numbers worth the investment, time and risk you take.  But then again you have to ask yourself on any investment, right? 

zarda_splash_plate1We can tweak those numbers mentioned to a degree.  You can choose to put down 25% to get a slightly better return on your cash flow and a better interest rate.  But then again you can save that extra 5% and combine it with other funds and buy two rental houses that are bringing in a 10%-12% return rather than one house bringing in a 13% return.  Follow? 

For those of you that don’t know me I’ve tried to be as real as I can about those numbers mentioned.  Believe or don’t believe.  The choice is yours.  But if you owned some Kansas City investment property you’d have an excuse to eat some of our good barbeque. 

Now, I’m going to go mourn my Jayhawks losing yesterday.  And get ready for next weekend!

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What Return Should You Be Looking For?

Yesterday afternoon I sat down with a knowledgeable client and we worked out a prospective return for a house he currently owns and is thinking of converting from a primary residence to a rental property.   After working through the numbers we determined the return on investment and then discussed it.

I know you want me to tell you the return number.  But it’s not really relevant.  What has to be determined is what else could you do with that money and what would the returns be if you did?istock_000001554959xsmall 

When you own and/or manage a rental property you have to step back at least once a year and recalculate your returns.  Are you better off in the stock market with that money?  Bonds?  Under the mattress? 

What will the future bring?  Inflation?  More deflation? 

If I thought inflation I’d hang on to as many hard assets as I could.  Remember, 24-36 months ago very few saw the magnitude of our current financial collapse.  So who knows how quickly inflation could set in with all the money the fed is pumping into the economy. 

Long term deflation?  Unlikely in Kansas, but not off the table.  Then it’s best to sell now and stuff under the mattress.  🙂

If I’m helping you purchase an investment property here in Kansas City I’d like to get your overall capital growth up to about 15% – 22% a year.  Converting a residence can be considerably lower because of various other factors.  But a rental property return should definitely be higher than you can get elsewhere if for no other reasons than with rental property you have to work with tenants, property managers…and your money is not liquid. 

Think about all of that and then decide what is an acceptable return.  What is acceptable to you may be very different than what is acceptable to me.

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