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You Can Be Defrauded: It’s Easy

Every one of us likes to think we are so smart and so wary that we cannot be defrauded.  Bull.  If I learned anything as a PI all those years in the Washington, DC area it is that anyone, and I mean anyone can be taken advantage of.

When  we think of fraud in real estate we think of lying on loan apps, lying about disclosures, lying about this & that.  But here is the deal.  There are people out there that have nothing better to do but sit around all day and night trying to figure out how to take advantage of you.  You really don’t stand a chance.  Trust me on this. 

I’ve seen too many people of all shapes, sizes, economic & education backgrounds be taken advantage of in ways that would make your hair curl.  Currently I am helping a couple of people to work out of decisions that seemed like no-brainers at the time but with a few months behind them cannot believe how easily they were misled.  Before you criticize just be glad it wasn’t you.  It could have been. 

Take a few minutes and do a Google search for Brent Barber, our Kansas City real estate fraud guy.  (Just click his name.)  Read especially, if you have the time, the article in The Pitch that lays out the whole scheme in detail.  He is actually quite proud of his industriousness in taking your properties. 

I just wonder what he could have accomplished as an honest member of our society.  Now he’s in prison for 19 years.  And we are getting messed over again because we have to pay for him to live for free.  Jeez. 

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Capital Growth

Cash Flow Before Taxes
+
Principal Reduction
+
Tax Benefits (depreciation/interest)
+
Appreciation
/  (divided by)
Capital Invested (downpayment + closing costs)
=
Capital Growth

Or Return on Investment, if you will.  Now to me, I like to make sure my returns are satisfactory and that the rental property will be self-sustaining without adding in the Apprecaition. 

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I Guess I’m Not Guru Approved

I received this email the other day…names removed…

Hi Chris,We will be coming into Kansas City in June for a field training regarding the purchase of investment property in the Kansas City Area. We are in need of a real estate agent who knows the area and is willing to work with us to find investment properties as well as put us in contact with a mortage broker who can work some “creative financing”.
We permanently reside in Palm Springs, CA and have excellent credit. It is our goal that in 3 days to purchase a couple of properties.

Would you be interested in assisting us with this endeavor?

Thank you very much and I look forward to hearing from you soon.
 

 

 Here was my response…

Working with real estate investing can mean many different things.  I’m more structured to investors looking to buy & hold over a period of 5-8 years using maximum leverage from good credit and looking to achieve capital growth over cash flow.  See my blog at www.BBQCapital.com for more information. 
 
I would love to help.  But your comments about “field training” and “creative financing” send up warning signals to me.  I do not wish to tell you what to do.  Really.  But proceed with caution.  I’ve seen more than a dozen folks from out of state come into our area with the help of an investment guru and sometime later call me wanting me to help fix the mess they are currently in.
 
You can always feel free to call me at 913.568.1579 to discuss what your objectives will be.  If I can help, I’d love to.  I don’t think you’ll find anyone better.  And if I think it’s best you work with someone else I’ll say that, too.  (As you can probably tell I’m fairly outspoken.) 
 
Do give me a call.  Five minutes of your time can make a huge difference.

Since I’ve received no response I can only assume that I didn’t pass the muster with their real estate investing guru.  Actually, I’m kinda proud about that.  If I wanted to double my income, literally, I could just help these people…no questions asked.  I get similiar emails and phone calles EVERY WEEK.  I know of enough “creative” mortgage people and “cash flow” properties priced less than your used car that this guru would salivate over.  And heck, I could even charge to help them complete their “field training.” 

Maybe I should change my business model, get a Mercedes and a gold chained necklace? 

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Good Deal Or Did We Leave Money On The Table?

I’m working with a buyer that has a verbal acceptance on a REO duplex in Blue Springs, MO.  After repairs I believe the buyer is getting about $25,000-$30,000 worth of instant equity.  Sure the duplex starts out empty, but that’s serious cake.  And it’s only a 4 year old building with brick exterior and solid, solid rental comps in the neighborhood. 

Problem is the REO holder accepted our first bid that was significantly under the asking price.  I think the buyer is getting a more than fair price and so do they.  But it makes you wonder, doesn’t it?  Was there money left on the table?  Of course our buyer will close quickly and is more than qualified.  So all that weighed in to the selling REO holder, I’m sure.  But still I can’t help but wonder. 

What are your thoughts?

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Cash On Cash And Why You May Not Wish To Worry About It

Cash on Cash10% Cash On Cash is the Holy Grail to a lot of real estate investors.  I just had the conversation again with someone in their very early thirties telling me why they needed a 10% Cash On Cash return.  That’s what his father had said he absolutely had to be sure of before buying an income property.   And if I was his father’s counselor I may or may not agree depending on his situation.  But for this younger man with great income, a solid future and a desire to build assets,  I couldn’t disagree more strongly.

REALTOR DISCLAIMER
Remember, as a professional real estate agent that works everyday with real estate investment property I have access to not only my own personal experiences but the personal experiences of people that, in total, own hundreds of rental homes.  I make it my business to talk to them and to tap their wisdom.  From those experiences I offer my advice after getting knowledgeable with each individual’s situation.  But ultimately, your decision is your decision.  I work for you.  Not the other way around.  Now, I may have you sign a disclaimer….   🙂

Listen to this very carefully.  To the extent that you chase Cash on Cash returns you retard your capital growth.  It’s really that simple.  Why?

  • Cash flow investment property with little to nothing down, at least here in the Kansas City area, tends to be in areas and neighborhoods that don’t appreciate very well in relationship to their surrounding communities.
  • For income properties that will appreciate at par or above, you will need to put more money down, i.e. 20% versus 10%, to get the higher Cash Flow Before Taxes to benefit your Cash On Cash returns. 

Take for example a Blue Springs, MO duplex I’ve been keeping my eye on. This particular rental property is about 40 years old (give or take) but has been nicely cared for, has a brick exterior with a newer roof, windows, carpeting, ceramic tile and more.  I’m sure the purchase price will be somewhere around $136,500 with the seller’s paying 2% closing costs.  Rents are $1,175/mo and it’s 100% occupied in a nice little quiet neighborhood that stays rented with quality tenants. 

Without showing you all my calculations here I can tell you that with 10% down on this property your cash flow is about $53 a year after all expenses calculated.  (And yes, I mean all.)  That translates to a 0.4% Cash On Cash return.  That’s right there with having a passbook savings account at Capitol Federal Savings. Not good.  But wait, there’s more!  (Apologies to Ronco.)  When you calculate Cash Flow Before Taxes, Principal Reduction and Depreciation your capital growth on your investment is 13.9%. 

Using the same income and expenses with 20% down, the corresponding lower interests rates and no PMI the Cash Flow Before Taxes jumps to $1,457 a year.  That’s a Cash On Cash return of 5.2%.  Now we’re getting better, right?  Well, no. Not really.  Because your capital growth has dropped from 13.9% with 10% down to this scenario at 10.6% capital growth. 

Note: No appreciation was used in the work-up of these numbers.  But what if it had?

Well, not only would your capital growth be better but you’d have two rental properties working for you where as before, with 20% down and better Cash On Cash you only have one rental property working for you. 

Are you following me here?

Heck, even if you are not believe me!  Or call me, come in an we’ll sit down and work-up a real property and by the time we’re done you’ll be able to teach me all about it.  Again, depending on your stage in life, investment goals, long term plans and available cash reserves this may not be the best strategy.  But for many, many, many people this argument will hold very true. 

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Landlords of Johnson County, Kansas

Landlords of Johnson County, KansasAs I mentioned a couple months back I joined the Landlords of Johnson County, Kansas at the behest of one of my clients.  I’m glad I did. Even if the only meeting I ever go to was my first last evening.

There must have been between 75-80 people there last evening to listen to three officers affiliated with the Bank of Blue Valley speak about financial planning, getting your affairs in order and the state of the current economy.  I’ll have more to say about that in a post tomorrow.  Much more.  Believe me.

My 43rd birthday is next Tuesday (gift cards are best)  🙂  and I had to be one  of the five youngest people in the room.  At my table I sat and tried to be as quiet as possible while listening to two couples that had owned investment property for the last 25 years or more.  And more than one property.  From listening I could gather that one had traded their properties from time to time while another had pretty much sat on the same properties the entire time.  

MastermindThis isn’t a post to say one was right and one was wrong.  I could easily show you the guy trading every once in a while has assets that would double, triple or even quadruple what the all-time holder has.  No.  This is a post about networking.  About brain-storming.  About being part of a mastermind.

Yes, I eventually was asked questions and shared the experiences that I have encountered.  At our table was another couple (in their thirties?) who owned at least two properties.  I couldn’t help but think that besides myself they were probably getting the most out of this meeting before the speakers spoke. 

One of the reasons we have so many loyal readers here at Kansas City Real Estate Investing is because I know you come here to share experiences.  To listen.  To learn. To filter through everything to find what you need. 

Now, I’ve only been to one meeting of the Landlords of Johnson County.  But I’ll guarantee you I’ll go back!  More than any investment club meeting I’ve ever been to this has real value to real real estate investors.  These attendees were people with experience.  With common sense approaches to owning and managing rental properties.  These were people with decades of experience building wealth the old fashioned way.

If you are an investment property owner in Johnson County, Kansas (a requirement to join) I would like very much to encourage you to visit their website and consider joining the association.  There is so much more I am eager to learn.  And I believe I can learn from the Landlords of Johnson County. 

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School Districts And Property Values

schoolhousesm.jpgEver notice how school districts and property values go together?  Take the Kansas City School District.  It’s perceived to be in constant turmoil with very little idea of which direction it’s heading.  (See all the turnover in the Superintendent position.)  Houses in the KC School District, by in large, are much less expensive than their counterparts just a mile or two to the west in the Shawnee Mission School District.

That’s it.  Nothing complicated.  Just look at the intrinsic values of your investment properties, too. 

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