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Real Life Olathe Investment Property Story: Part I

abacusBuckle down and get your calculators out because today and tomorrow I will tell the story of what is and what could have been.  All of this based on a real life example from an actual Olathe, Kansas investment property located about 22 miles southwest of downtown Kansas City.

Our Investment Property:  The investment property we are going to use as an example was a duplex purchased in whole in March of 1997.  Built in 1988, this 2 bedroom, 2 bath duplex is located in a nice middle class neighborhood in very much a growth oriented part of Kansas City.  So my guess is that appreciation here was a little stronger than it would have been in many areas of KC, though not as strong as it would have been if it had been located east of I-35.  So we have a fair income property to use. 

Some of the numbers include a purchase price in 1997 of $106,000.  It was bought after several months on the market so we know there wasn’t a bidding war for the property.   Today the property has been “split” meaning that the buyer of this property in 1997 was a fairly intelligent investor and knew that he could sell the pieces for more than the whole. 

It appears as though the 1997 buyer sold the first half in April of 2000 for $83,950 and the second half in December of 2001 for $85,950.  For reasons of edification, the county appraised value of each today is $96,400.  Though I believe you would sell each for $105,000.

I am very familiar with this un-named neighborhood because I also own a property within it’s HOA.  So all the numbers I’m using I’m very familiar with.  As Hollywood would say, “based on a true story.”

BossOy.  Chris.  You really can take a lot of time setting up situations.  Couldn’t you just tell us what you have to tell us and be done with it.  I have 5 other blogs I read and I only have just so much time before my boss asks me to do something…again!

Er, sorry. 

What if the buyer in 1997 had the same theory of thought that so many real estate investors have that it’s better to buy a good property and hold on to it forever because each year you get closer to having the mortgage paid off and you’ll then have cash flow for life? 

Well today we are going to tackle that question.  Tomorrow, we’ll see where the 1997 buyer actually went.  And then we’ll discuss a hypothetical on what would  have happened if he had done what I recommended to him to do. 

Note to all Hillary Clinton voters out there:  I’m using “HIM” because that’s what my teachers (women) taught me was proper English.  I fully recognize that the investor could have been a woman every bit as savvy as any man.  🙂

The Math On Our Olathe Investment Property
To be clear, we are calculating today’s worth if the investor had held on to this income property until today. 

Purchase Price      $106,000
Sales Price             $210,000
Sales Costs            $   14,700
Net Appreciation  $  89,300

Original financing (let’s just say he never refinanced) was 20% down ($21,200), closing costs paid by seller (an educated guess) and 7.5% interest (probably a little high) and fully amortized over 30 years. 

Loan balance at origination  $84,800
Loan balance after 11 years $71,951
Principal Reduction       $12,849

So let me see if I have this right.  With an initial investment of $21,200 the real estate investor in question now has equity in the property of $102,149.  Get your calculators out and tell me what the annual yield is.  I think you’ll find it somewhere just north of 16%.  Regardless, the gain in equity is nearly 4 times the initial investment…in only 11 years. 

articleimage.jpgWhoa.  Whoa.  Whoa.  Chris, once again you are forgetting a few things.  What about maintenance?  Like the fact that it needed new carpeting or that the walls needed painting and other such items.  You simply cannot discount those factors.

Oh, I agree 100%.  But how to figure those in?  I only have so much space, and as you said, you only have so much time before your boss comes back.  Because if you are going to make me start figuring all of those items I’m also going to have to figure in Cash Flow Before Taxes as well as what Depreciation would have done to your tax situation for all of those years.  (FYI:  Depreciation = Smile On Your Face)

Without actually seeing the investor’s tax sheets for the past 11 years I simply cannot be accurate down to $1,000.  But I can ask you to look at those numbers.  Do you like what you see?  It can be better.  Join us tomorrow and we’ll look at another scenario based on the 1997 purchase of this Olathe duplex. 

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An Out-of-Towner’s Perspective

028_8022new-york-new-york-brooklyn-bridge-posters.jpgI had the pleasure yesterday of driving around some folks from the New York area.  Without giving away details they are looking to purchase a duplex, live in one side and rent the other.  Smart, in my opinion. 

A couple things come to mind here;

  1. Real estate investing in Kansas City doesn’t have to be complicated.  Nor do you have to have tens upon tens of thousands of dollars on hand to become a real estate investor.  If you are in your 20’s, or even 30’s, and you are looking to buy your first home why not think long term?  Buy a smaller single family or a duplex that would also make a good investment property.  You’ll get to purchases it with very favorable financing since you’ll be living in at least a portion and with interest rates the way they are now…well, smile.
  2. The comment was made that other New Yorkers simply do not believe that our real estate out here in the Kansas City area is still affordable, stable and in some areas even still with appreciation.   Whether or not you believe it…it’s still true.

That’s it.  No long post over complicated formulas and plans.  Just be smart about real estate investing.  And just get started from where you are. 

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Ridin’ The Storm Out

REO SpeedwagonKevin Cronin and REO Speedwagon once sang

           Ridin’ the storm out,
              waitin’ for the fallout…

I must confess right here it’s one of my favorite songs, ever.   But I don’t like it when it concerns real estate investing.  Fortunately, here in Kansas City our income property hasn’t had too much fall out.  But around the country?  Forget about it.

Because the California and Florida and Las Vegas markets have experienced tremendous fallout many people in more stable markets like Kansas City, Charlotte, Tulsa and Dallas still feel apprehensive about moving forward with acquiring more investment property.

So I wanted to give you some food for thought.  First, I like what Christopher Smith over at Equity Scout has to say on the subject in his post titled Five approaches to today’s soft real estate marketRead it and see what you think.

Here Are My Thoughts

punt1.jpgIf you have a non-performing property right now, sell.  No if’s ands or buts.  I don’t care if you lose money on the sale.  What would you rather do?  Continue to lose money every month indefinitely?  If it’s a non-performing property in a less than desirable location cut your losses and run.

If you have an under-performing property right now, hold.  Maybe you counted on appreciation to get the price up quickly so you could raise rents.  Maybe you counted on rents rising faster than they did.  Either way, whatever small amount you might be losing will probably be offset when the market begins to rebound.  Will that be next year?  I don’t know, either.  But depending on your situation I would advise you to hold tight.

If you are lacking leverage, go ahead and exchange.  So you sell for a bit less than you want to because it’s a buyer’s market.  Guess what?  Whatever you buy you’ll be able to buy for less than that seller wanted to sell because it’s a buyer’s market.  🙂  What’s more important here is keeping your capital growth on track to get to your retirement on or ahead of time.  Not whether you bled every penny out of your property that you had hoped to get. 

 If you have cash now (or assets) and are thinking about more property, buy.  It’s never been easier to buy at or below market here in Kansas City.  And believe it or not we still have areas of modest appreciation.   Call or email me for specific examples.

Of course, everybody’s situation is a little unique.  These are generalizations and not intended to be specific advice to anyone.  We’ll have to sit down over a coke to see when and where you should go.

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It’s A Very Exciting Time Right Now For The Kansas City Real Estate Investing Market

Chris Lengquist, Olathe Keller Williams RealtyKansas City real estate investing has some very exciting things going on right now for those that find themselves “in the know.”  Here are a couple of things that I can make you aware of:

  • I told you on the 31st of December that Jeff Brown would be coming into town to speak with many of my clients.  Well, we have two meetings filled almost to capacity.  Hopefully (and I know he will) Jeff will make this worth everybody’s time.
  • In the last week to ten days I have met with no fewer than 4 builders all of whom have new construction homes, with tenants in many of them, that they want to liquidate.  I’m still putting these all together so that I can get them out to you in an email as soon as possible.  But many/most will carry their own water with 10% down

One of the challenges out there to the real estate investor is the ever changing credit market.  There are new and sometimes annoying hurdles that we have to jump to get you the loans you need.  But make no mistake, the money is out there to those with good to great credit and with 10% to kick into the future income property. 

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Watch $105,000 Turn Into $1,037,072

homer.jpgWednesday I wrote a post regarding your real estate investing goal setting for 2008.  In there I referenced that most of you would be blown away if you would actually sit down and do the math on what 10 rental properties would do to change your financial life. 

So I thought I would take a few minutes and just work through what only 5 properties would do.  Now before I put up the spreadsheet let’s set some ground rules.

  • We’re saying you are 40 years old and want to retire in 20 years.  You have about $25,000 a year over each of the next five years to invest in real estate.
  • You’ll be buying income property with only 10% down. 
  • I’ve also calculated in as an expense $5,000 towards closing costs for each house.
  • The properties will “break even” meaning after you put the 10% down they will pay for themselves.  You will NOT be receiving the benefit of Cash Flow Before Taxes.
  • I will NOT calculate depreciation which is a major benefit of owning real estate investment property.

Therefore, the only two benefits in play here are principal reduction and appreciation. 

Chris!  What appreciation?  Haven’t you been reading the papers?

I can’t believe I have to cover this each and every time.  But I will, once again.  Here in Kansas City we still have pockets of appreciation.   And historically, we’re at about 5% year in year out, on average.  However, for you skeptics, I’m only figuring 3% appreciation for the first 5 years of each property and 4.5% after that.  Remember, we’re only buying one property a year and therefore some properties might be getting 4.5% while the newer rental properties are still at 3%.

And besides, if the market really is down shouldn’t you be able to find some values out there that you could buy 3%-10% under market?  Thought so.

Are you following me so far?   Good.  Take a look at the spreadsheet, ignoring the 6th year where I got bored and quit.

real estate investing spreadsheet

Now you can break it all down if you like.  You are welcome to.  But the key thing to note here are that I already took out 7% for sales costs down the road.  So after 5 years of investing a total of $105,000 of your hard-earned money (and that includes some closing costs) you now have $1,037,072 in equity just waiting on you!

Yeah.  But Chris.  I could have taken that $105,000 and dropped it into some stocks, bonds, hedge funds, IRA’s or anything else.  Right?

Of course you could.  And nobody is stopping you.  In fact, I might recommend taking some extra cash and doing so.  But what if we had taken that whole $105,000 in year one and invested it with a solid 8% a year return and let it percolate for 20 years? 

Then your investment would be worth between $489,000 and $511,000 depending on how many times a year the interest was compounded.  Either way, is $511,000 better than $1,000,000?

That’s as obvious as asking a 23 year old male whether he’d rather have a date with Bea Arthur (with all due respect) or Keira Knightly.

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Now, in the interest of time and space I haven’t discussed every possibility, tax implication or excluded benefit.  But this should help to give you the picture.  Naturally, all of this is what if’s and not expressed as a guarantee that real estate will always go up, blah, blah, blah.

Your comments, pro or con, are welcome here.

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January 19, 2008

Loyal readers of BBQ Capital located here in Kansas City may want to get out their real estate investing calendars and pencil out January 19, 2008. 

I’m not ready to make the formal announcement, yet.  But I’m bringing to town one of my favorite real estate investing advisers.  Kansas City real estate investors should jump at the chance to sit in the room with the gentlemen coming to town.  Especially when it will be at no charge for my clients and prospective clients. 

Cancel what you were doing.  It’ll be in the morning and afternoon hours that we get together so I can still catch the KU v MU basketball game. (Gotta have priorities.) 

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Due On Sale Clause & KU Basketball

Bill Roberts wrote an excellent piece on his ActiveRain blog titled The Don’ts Of Due On Sale Clause.  A worthwhile read if you have any interest whatsoever in that line of real estate investing.

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Allen Fieldhouse 

Going to the Kansas vs. Miami (Ohio) game over at the new Sprint Center tomorrow.  Can’t wait. 

In the mean time, here is an excellent link to Mike DeCourcy’s article concerning Kansas’ Allen Fieldhouse.  I’m 5288. 

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