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You Never Know It All – Get A Coach

I’m just like you.  There are things I’m really good at.  And there are places where I need improvement.  I wish I could hit a major league curve ball.  I wish I could hit the contested 22′ jumper as the clock winds down.  I wish I had the answers to world peace and global climate change. 

There is one strength that I do possess, however, that allows me to continue to develop as a father, a husband, a real estate agent and an investment counselor.  I can recognize what I don’t know or where I will need help.  Now you may not think that is a strength.  But I do.

A little over a week ago a fantastic opportunity was presented to me.  I knew that much.  Trouble was, I just didn’t know what to do with it.  I could see the profit there for whatever client(s) I was able to put together with this property.  And I knew I could get paid handsomely for doing so.  But I just couldn’t piece it together.

Jeff Brown - BawldguySo rather than let it die.  Or worse, rather than continuing to try to figure it out myself to the detriment of the seller and whatever buyer would be interested I picked up the phone and called Jeff Brown.   (He’s the bawldguy on the right.)

For those of you unfamiliar with Jeff Brown he is a licensed REALTOR in the State of California.  Jeff works with investment housing, like myself.  But there is a major difference.  Jeff has about 35 years of experience to my 6.  So while I lacked the experience to put this thing together I knew there was someone out there that would be able to help me reveal the possibilities. 

Coach WoodenI’ve written before about the importance of having a Coach in the field of real estate investing.   Whether he likes it or not, I think of Jeff Brown as my coach.  Thanks, big guy.

Now I don’t always run the play…but that’s a whole other story.  🙂

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Kansas City Perceptions

Los AngelesSpending four days in Los Angeles was quite an experience.  I’ve written briefly about my trip there in previous blogs.  What I haven’t told you was the curiosity that west coast real estate investors have with Kansas City.  And their perceptions of Kansas City can be very eye opening.  Some are rooted in fact.  Some are rooted in the very fiction created on film there.

I have a few clients that are Los Angeles based.  They own duplexes, fourplexes and single family homes.  Three have visited the city.  One hasn’t.  And still others either grew up here or have a brother, sister or whatever that lives here.  Still, we are all products of our environment.

When I lived in Suburban Maryland (DC) I thought nothing of commuting thirteen miles to work…and spending an hour and fifteen minutes in doing so.  Nor was I ever surprised by self-important people or the endless amounts of wealth on display.  Power and hurried-ness are very much the culture in Washington. 

In LA I could feel the laid back attitude (unless behind the wheel) within an odd mixture of electricity, money and fame.  I spoke with working folks who can’t afford their own homes, the real estate investors who simply cannot afford to buy local rental properties and those investors who have watched their equity positions shrink drastically over the course of the last 12-15 months. 

Kansas CityKansas City is more than 1/2 a continent away from those two cities.  It’s another world.  We are not backwards here.  Nor are we the cow-town depicted in the movies.  But we are a product of the heartland.  A place where nothing too exciting ever happens but where hopes and dreams grow and are nourished with care.  Many of our young grow up and do great things in Kansas City.  Many more move on to other parts of the country to seek fame and fortune.  That’s just part of life here.

Investing in real estate in Kansas City is different, too.  As we would read about double digit appreciation all we could do was sit and wonder.  And just as distant to Kansas City is the bursting real estate bubble where values fall in large percentages to the home’s value.  

To be sure we get our appreciation and we get our buyer’s markets.  But with jealousy and then relief we watch those on the coasts and realize what we have here.  And what we have here is:

  • Stable real estate growth.
  • Very predictable appreciable growth patterns.
  • Excellent school districts.
  • One of the most sparsely populated metropolitan areas in the country.
  • Excellent highway system that other cities dream of.
  • A solid mixture of technology, manufacturing, industrial, service and transportation jobs.  In fact, every Fortune 400 company has a branch here in the Kansas City area.
  • Disposable capital that growing companies dream of.
  • A good, educated work force.
  • Rent ratios and vacancy rates that make a real estate investor drool.
  • Low crime rates.
  • A family orientated quality of life.

SprintMany of those listed bullet points were the answers to the questions I was asked throughout my trip.  Real estate investors, especially the smart ones, are after more than just the Cap Rates and Rates of Return.  They want to know who their tenants will be and the likelihood that those tenants will be stable enough to buy them a property. 

I think that if you’ll come to Kansas City you’ll like what you find.

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Is This Agent Dishonest or Incompetent?

This post could have been titled Why You Cannot Trust Your REALTOR.  But either way, I thought we would take a moment and look at a classic case of serial incompetence or dishonesty.  I don’t know which it is.  You be the judge. 

Editor’s Note:  It’s interesting to me that this photo will no longer post.  Hmmm.  I erased the photo on my hard drive after having posted it.  But now the WordPress version will not show no matter what I do.  Of course, I could redo the photo.  But why bother.  The point is still the same.   If you are working with a real estate agent regarding real estate investments in Kansas City, or anywhere, work with an agent that understands real estate investing.  Simple as that.

Let’s look at this actual listing on the Heartland MLS that serves the Kansas City area.  I’ve marked through the address, agent name and info that doesn’t concern you.  Suffice it to say that the agent is one that has been in business for years, sells numerous duplexes, fourplexes, etc.,  Yes, the agent works mostly in the investment side of real estate and still does crap like this.

You will see Gross Income is represented at $31,900, Gross Expenses at $2,640 and Cap Rate as 9.  (To see a good definition of Cap Rate go here.)  If I were an investor looking for a Cap Rate in Kansas City between 8 & 10 I’d be all over this.  I’d give the guy/gal a call.  Heck, if I was from out of state I might even make an offer sight unseen to make sure I got it under contract. 

But is the Cap Rate really 9?  If you followed the link you know that Cap Rate is simply the ratio between cash flow & cost.  Cash flow is determined by adding all the income and subtracting all the expenses.  Let’s concentrate on the expenses here. 

Look at the top right hand corner next to the arrow and check mark in red.  You’ll see HOA dues are $220 per month.  That’s neither good nor bad.  Depends on what you get.  But if you multiply that times 12 you come up with the $2,640 the agent has marked as Gross Expenses.  So we’ve already hit his/her expenses total and we haven’t added repairs, maintenance, capital improvements, property management, insurance, etc. 

What’s worse is we haven’t even totaled all the other expenses he/she has listed!!!  What are those you might ask?  Look at the taxes check marked in red at the top right at $2,856.  Then, just to the left, you will notice vacancy listed as 95%.  Probably not exactly true, either.  But an un-producing unit is considered an expense in my book. 

Just by adding up HOA of $2,640, taxes of $2,856, vacancies at 5% for another $1595, insurance probably around $1,800 and let’s say at least $2,000 for improvements (I’m being kind, very kind – remember the building is 41-50 year old) and we have expenses of $10,891.  Subtract that from $31,900 and you have $21,009 income before debt service. 

Now divide that $21,900 by the asking price of $339,990 (we’ll hope the seller is paying all closing costs) and you have a Cap Rate of 6.2. 

How does that sound compared to 9? 

Listen.  I hesitate to call anyone dishonest or incompetent.  But it can only be one of the following considering this agent isn’t new to the business:

  1. A fundamental misunderstanding of how to calculate returns.
  2. Choosing to remain ignorant of how to calculate returns on investment property.
  3. A desire to bait & switch a potential real estate investor.
  4. Dishonesty.
  5. Using an untrained assistant to enter information therefore showing a lack of oversight ability. 

I’m not nitpicking here.  This is big stuff.  And it’s consistent through all of this agent’s listings.  Plus, I’m still pissed off the agent didn’t ever call me back on one of their listings despite the fact that I called 3 or 4 times over the course of a 48 hour period several months ago. 

If you are a real estate investor you need to be darn sure the agent you choose to work with is both competent and honest.  You cannot possibly know the latter for sure.  But you can quiz on the former.

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Learning To Drive Is Like Learning To Invest

bro71mav.jpgI’ve been driving since I was fifteen.  My first car was a 1971 Ford Maverick.  Straight six with three in the tree.  When I bought it the color was primer and all the wheels had standard factory issue.  Well, this wouldn’t do for a 15 year old who already had his driver’s license.  (Actually, it was restricted license for school, work and emergencies.  Since my mom was single and had to work from 9-7 each day and I had two younger siblings, everything was an emergency.)   Some mag wheels, the shifter moved to the floor, fresh paint and holes added to the muffler for that “loud” sound and I was off!

Now, my 15 year old son is learning to drive.  We currently have an automatic Nissan Quest minivan and, of course, my standard transmission MINI Cooper.  He’s learning to drive both.  But the standard transmission is causing him some fits.  He can get it into gear and get going…jerky and bucking all the way.  But go he does.

However, the other day he killed it, again.  Frustration showed on his face and “will I ever master this?” escaped from his lips.

Chris, not to be rude, but you are doing it again!  Real estate investing is the reason both myself and others come to this blog.  We want to learn the in’s and out’s of investing our hard earned cash into an asset that will appreciate and maybe even make a little money along the way to our retirement worth having.  Can you please get to the point?

Okay.  If you insist.  And since you interrupted me I’ll use you as the example.  You are like that young man of mine learning to drive the stick shift.  You’ve read about driving.  You’ve listened to me and many others talk about how they drive.  You’ve even heard of people who can help you short cut the learning process and just plop you down in a new car with little or no effort that will do everything for you. 

However, you haven’t done it yourself, yet.  And furthermore, you’re getting confused as more an more people tell you how they do it.  Adding to that is the fact that you’ve learned and experienced just enough to think you might know what you are doing.  That’s danger time.

062207_plane-crash-004-747688.jpgSide note, and I apologize for this.  Did you know that most plane crashes occur with pilots who are between 80-150 hours of experience?  They think they know what they are doing.  What they really lack, however, is experience.  

Fine.  Fine.  Fine.  You’re kid is driving.  Planes are crashing.  I just want to invest in real estate!  Can you help me??!!??

kungfulegendcontinues.jpgYes.  I can.  And the first lesson is patience, young grasshopper.  Just because you have money doesn’t mean I have just the right property for you at this exact moment.  But I’ll turn it up. 

Why just yesterday I met with a banker who issues new construction loans for residential builders.  He knows of builders in financial straits and he’s going to pass my name along to them.  Maybe there is an opportunity in there, somewhere. 

I also know of pre-packaged properties in the Texas area, if you are so inclined.  Just drop me an email to learn more about that.  Real estate investing is about making a profit.  Whether you are a flipper or rehabber or pre-foreclosure person or better yet, a buy & holder.  The key is to find the right property that meets your criteria for a multitude of categories. 

Don’t rush into your next purchase.  If you are going to do that you can use any residential real estate agent.  I’m here to help you, as an adviser, make the best real estate investment possible at that particular time.

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Thanksgiving in Kansas City & Misc Real Estate Thoughts

It’s a holiday weekend and so I really don’t feel like getting into the nitty-gritty of real estate investing here in Kansas City. However, I do want to bring you these tidbits, real estate related and other wise. And don’t forget. Tonight is the night they turn on the Plaza lights. Simply no more romantic place on Earth than the Country Club Plaza at Christmas.

NOTE: I “borrowed” the photo from KC Plaza Flights. Take a look and take a trip that you will never forget.

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I posted this over at my ActiveRain blog since Google seems to pick it up quicker. The link will take you to a fourplex for sale in Belton that will make Coasters (as Lani call them) wet themselves. That’s right, a Kansas City area investment property that costs around $155,000 and makes about $1,600 in gross monthly rents and it’s in a neighborhood I think is on the grow. Eat your heart out Los Angeles.

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Like Jay Thompson over at The Phoenix Real Estate Guy I too am proud that my 15 year old son just got his first “real” job. He’s raked leaves, mowed lawns and the like but wanted desperately to get out into the job world. He’s going to be working for Chick-fil-A, a good Christian company that’s closed on Sundays. (Can you believe it?)

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Two days ago I was showing an apartment in Olathe to a real estate investor and it was 78 degrees. I had my windows rolled down and a golf shirt on. Yesterday, it snowed! Not much. But it snowed! How fast everything can change.

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The Kansas Jayhawks are in for quite a weekend. First, on Saturday, is the Border War with Missouri that has been aptly renamed Armageddon at Arrowhead. Again, if you are not from this region you probably cannot understand the animosity that exists between the two schools. It’s gonna be something. Go Jayhawk football!

Then on Sunday evening our Jayhawk basketball team takes on Arizona over at Allen Fieldhouse. Basketball is woven into the very fabric of Kansas culture. So anytime you play a game against such a quality opponent you take notice.

Here’s hoping MY Kansas Jayhawks go 2-0 for the weekend!

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Real estate investing doesn’t have to be rocket science. I’ve received several phone calls over the last couple of weeks from people saying they are confused and don’t know which direction to turn.

My advice is to not spend thousands and thousands of dollars on guru knowledge. Just read this blog, Christopher Smith’s Equity Scout blog and Jeff Brown’s blog. You’ll get better advice and it’s free. There are a few others I could mention, as well.

Happy Thanksgiving. Happy investing.

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Real Estate Investing Returns Calculations

Calculating projected returns can be of paramount importance when deciding on whether or not to pull the trigger on any particular investment property whether it be here in Kansas City or elsewhere. After all, real estate investing is about securing a return. Without that return your money would do better to be somewhere else.

So before buying that next “income” property you need to know whether there will be any income. (That’s why I get paid the big dollars.)
Of course how you calculate that return is completely up to you. Jeff Brown recently discussed his Einsteinian theory over at BawldGuy. See the post here. And a nice little Q&A session happened in the comments section so be sure to read those, as well.
Let me just say that I prefer to know what the equity return on any investment property will be before I buy it. What is equity return? Quite simply it’s how much I am receiving in benefits divided by how much I have invested.

Remember the 4 Benefits of real estate investing?
  1. Cash flow before taxes.
  2. Principal reduction.
  3. Depreciation.
  4. Appreciation.

Let’s take the calculation of these step by step.

#1 was cash flow before taxes. Simple enough. Just take the amount the property is actually bringing in and subtract the amount the investment property is actually costing you. What’s left over is your cash flow before taxes.

#2 was principal reduction. Again, quite simple to figure out based on the loan you have taken out. If you took out an interest only loan (you’re welcome, Jeff) then you won’t have any. If you have taken out almost any other kind of loan you can just look at your amortization table and figure out how much principal reduction there should be in any given year for your rental home.

#3 is depreciation. Okay, I could do an entire post here. Or two. If you are breaking down your depreciation between land and building only then you depreciate the building over 27.5 years. Rather simple to calculate and all you have to do to figure out the number is to refer to a depreciation table as to when you put your rental property into service.

If you choose to accelerate your depreciation through cost segregation then you will need to do some more figuring. But it’s really only a few more steps. Although, that may be over simplifying things.

#4 is appreciation. Wow! Have you ever tried to predict appreciation? How did that work out for you? Listen, you can guess at what it will be and be awfully darn sure of what it was. But when figuring out if an investment property will be a good buy RIGHT NOW you are going to want to buy a rental property that will make sense based on the previous 3 benefits of real estate investing. Then appreciation is icing on the cake! And you wouldn’t buy a cake unless you knew it would have icing, right? (I know, there’s pineapple upside down cake. But let’s move on.)

Again, before buying your next Kansas City real estate investment property you need to know before you buy whether or not that was a good idea. Take the time to work through your calculations to see if the rental property will be a good buy or a drain on your current resources. After knowing you are making a good investment then you can go back to planning your retirement worth having.

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Ask Chris

I received this email early this morning from a would-be real estate investor that I’m working with:

I know appreciation is a big piece of the return, but in this market I don’t know what I can count on. It makes me think I should maybe look cash flow instead until the market turns around and move more toward growth at that time. Your thoughts?

Well, I’m glad you asked.

First, let me state unequivocally that this would be investor is sharp. He is looking at real estate investing as a way to secure a retirement worth having. But when you are newer at anything there is always a period of confusion and wonderment. Now to the question at hand.

Appreciation and growth are always going to be important when you are working with me planning out your real estate investments. I don’t advise heavy cash flow (run-down housing, mobile homes, etc.) income property and I believe that when you are starting a good healthy dose of leverage (with proper cash reserves) is in order.

Having said that, a rental property that pays for itself is of paramount importance. As the writer wonders, what will this market bring? What isn’t stated, but implied, is:

  • How long will this market last?
  • How can I time it to move from cash flow to growth?

Quite simply, you cannot know any of those things. You have to go with historical growth calculated along with growth assumptions, population & job trends, available real estate and desirability (along with a few other things) plus experience and then you blend those all together so that you come up with a target area and property type. Easy, right? 🙂

In the mean time, you absolutely must acquire properties within those parameters that will pay for themselves based on the down payment you have, the loan product you choose and the expenses you expect (and don’t expect).

Real estate investing is part science, part voodoo and a little bit of luck mixed in doesn’t hurt. (See California’s 20% a year growth. How ’bout the guy who sold it all at peak without knowing it was peak? That’s luck.)

What am I saying? Buy your rental property, income property, investment property (whatever term you use) based on sound financial principals. Base your growth projections on sound homework. Then you should be fine.

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